GALACTICA

That's what seemed unlikely to you? How about a 130-lb. woman wearing out a 210-lb man in the boxing ring? Like all it takes is a little training, and women everywhere could be smacking down musclebound goons. If that were remotely possible I would already be doing it.

Anders and Adama are so much alike I have difficulty telling them apart, except one is shorter and usually wears a uniform.
 

The whole episode was disgusting and stupid.

Michael, you make a good point. Either the writers look at the behavior of the characters as reprehensible (a man beating up a woman, a commanding officer sucker punching an enlisted man, an enlisted man pummeling a man 25-30 years older than him) or they find it acceptable.

If the former, then what are we to make of a show where virtually every main character is dysfunctional and unlikable? This has gone beyond the standard "flawed" human beings writing. These are sick characters.

If the latter, then how sick are the writers to think that this is wonderful or at least good?

Yes, it is common for ship captains to have athletic competitions that allow people to burn off some energy. I don't think Fight Club would be one of the options. After the fight we have one admiral with most likely broken ribs, and several pilots in battered condition (yeah high gee maneuvers will feel real good). And Adama is worried about one fighter not on the line? Also, non-comm is reporting directly to a captain? Someone else would be inbetween and responsible, like Helo. Of course, how can Adama be worried about discipline when he was perfectly willing to let Helo kill the Cylon prisoners? Aaarrgghhh, the more I think about this, the stupider it gets.
 

Ignoring all politics (I didn't see this episode as political at all), it was poorly structured and made little sense dramatically.

None of the character motivations made sense. Their actions seemed odd and out of place. And the ending made no sense.

Better living through boxing? It seems like the moral of the episode was: The way to handle personal problems is to physcially attack and beat on the other person until you both realize how much you really like each other.

I have to admit liking one moment: When Rosling stars giving Admiral Adama advice on how to win - those five seconds were actually pretty good.

The thing that bugs me most though is that the commens the creators have been making publicly show that they have bought into their own hype: They're convinced every episode they write is pure gold.

Unfortunately, it's been downhill since Pegasus. And they don't seem to realize it.
 

Ivan
When Rosling stars giving Admiral Adama advice on how to win - those five seconds were actually pretty good.

I agree with you there. That was about the only enjoyable moment of the episode. The thing that makes Rosalyn and Adama enjoyable, in this area, is that they have an actual adult relationship.

Had the New Carprica scenes been shown in the actual chronology of the show, they would have actually added some substance to the show. Instead, with the cutting back and forth (BTW, BSG does this way too often), it just felt like tacked on justification for what happened later.

The thing that bugs me most though is that the commens the creators have been making publicly show that they have bought into their own hype: They're convinced every episode they write is pure gold.

I don't listen to what the writers/producers have to say, but I can believe it.

Is anyone looking forward to next week's food shortage episode?
 

You've obviously never served in the military. Officers and enlisted do stuff like this all the time, especially during unit events. While this isn't my favorite episode, I really don't know where you get some of your ideas from. "obviously not deserving to be saved"? It's your bias that is coming out, not Ron Moore's.
 

"(And the humanity of BSG correlates with the United States, so the fact that we have boxing in the U.S. means we don't have the moral right to invade foreign countries such as Iraq.)"


You sir are quite clearly unhinged, your blubbing about Lefty bias is becoming less funny and more desperate, worrying and pitiful with every post.

How exactly was Boxing as a sport construed in this show to be a bad thing? I would suggest anyone without a political screw loose and an an extremely blunt axe to grind would have seen this show as promoting boxing largely positively.

It was certainly a forgetable and flawed episode but the notion that it was 'anti-American' because some people frown at pugilism is, well...laughable. They box in France you know.
 

The only question left for this program is: Has Battlestar Galactica jumped the shark?

Was that moment reached with the idiocy of the suicide bombers, esp. female bombers who "... were desperate", on New Caprica (=Iraq)?

Each plot element that is "ripped from the headlines", so-to-speak, has been an exploration of lefty dogma.

It is an increasingly disgusting spectacle.
 

How on Earth did you all not like this episode? So much emotion and tension.

This unspoken animosity between Starbuck and Apollo through past episodes, so much that Starbuck thought he'd just let her husband die out of spite, and you finally figure out why. Everything you see between the character's other relationships seems somehow hollow. Kara's marriage seems like an excuse. Lee's proposal seems like a rebuke. And they continue, continue hurting each other until they're forced to examine just why they're able to hurt each other so much, until they realize its because they need each other, because they miss each other.

Outside of Black Market this is the only episode I've really been able to get into.