GALACTICA

First off, Tigh did give his wife poison. He had to. What she did endangered the human race all for selfish reasons, to keep him alive. She compromised the security of the rebellion for her on needs! As for Baltar, he did need his ego fed, but once he became president, he realized that it was a job he was ill prepared for. As the needs of the people were brought before him, he became frustrated with having to constantly adhere to their demands. I quess that is when he felt "to hell with them" and just stop caring about "his people".

Roslin assumes the position of authority by the fact that everyone realized how stupid their decision was not to listen to her warning about remaining in New Caprica. She is considered to be very wise. Now, later episodes could bring up the legallity of if with Zerak. He may challenge for the office after the cellibration of the escape wears off.
what happened was that he felt that the office of the president was something that was not
 

Why be a human when the cyclons are so superior?
 

If Only Season 3 was in Australia....

Damn! that's such a pity that Pegasus gets destroyed! what the hell is Cmdr. Lee gonna do now? he's Colonel Tigh's Superior, does Lee become the new XO? And Laura Roslin Belongs as President, she seems the only one competent enough to lead the civilain wing of the fleet, i mean REALISTICLY, why would you want a terrorost in government?
 

I have to say that I was kinda disappointed with this episode. The last few took a small period of time building up to this, them boom, it's over. I thought it would take at least 2 episodes. Also, how is it that we did't see any of the escape shuttle get shot down, weren't thiere a bunch of Cylon Raiders flying around? And who cares if thier's a nuke on new caprica,didn't everyone leave? Or is it going tie back in sometime in the future with little human colonies in space (kinda related to the original). I'm confused a bit, but it's still the best show on TV even with it's trivial inconsistencies.

I do agree with the previos post about Baltar, but don't get the guy who stuck a gun in his face's comment to the blond girl (yeah, i should remember thier names) that she was in it for the good times with baltar, doesn't he know she's a cylon, or am I missing something.

- Jim
 

I agree with Jim here. They rushed through everything so fast that there was no drama, no tension. The only thread that held any sense of drama was between Apollo and Adama and how to rescue everyone without jeopardizing everyone who was left. But that was wrapped up in about 15 minutes.

Things learned:
- When approached by a battlestar, Cylon baseships will stay still to be rammed.
- The Cylons have not developed a remote control for nuclear devices. This requires one Cylon to go running around looking for the device. Of course, it isn't anywhere easily accessible, like the security compound. Couldn't that whole concept of, "If you don't surrender the Galatica and cease resistance, we'll nuke the city," actually have produce an interesting situation?
- Once it was realized that the launch keys were stolen, why didn't the Cylons destroy or immobilize the ships in another manner?
- As expected, the peace movement and the people willing to submit to Cylon rule threads are completely tossed aside.
- Chief T. had great cover from Cylon gunfire from behind a ladder.

One of the serious problems with BSG is that it the writers consistently fail to think things through. Let's look at the situation of collaborators helping the Cylons. (For those of you willing to believe the line about the insurgency being mainly based on Vichy France, please notice history here). People are fleeing to the ships to escape the Cylons, are you going to get on one of those ships and risk the wrath of your fellow humans? I don't think so. In WWII, if you were a collaborator in France, you did your best to flee with the Germans. In this case, if you were helping the Cylons, you would stay behind. This episode really doesn't address that reality. All-in-all, this is really getting frustrating.
 

I agree with Jim here. They rushed through everything so fast that there was no drama, no tension. The only thread that held any sense of drama was between Apollo and Adama and how to rescue everyone without jeopardizing everyone who was left. But that was wrapped up in about 15 minutes.

Things learned:
- When approached by a battlestar, Cylon baseships will stay still to be rammed.
- The Cylons have not developed a remote control for nuclear devices. This requires one Cylon to go running around looking for the device. Of course, it isn't anywhere easily accessible, like the security compound. Couldn't that whole concept of, "If you don't surrender the Galatica and cease resistance, we'll nuke the city," actually have produce an interesting situation?
- Once it was realized that the launch keys were stolen, why didn't the Cylons destroy or immobilize the ships in another manner?
- As expected, the peace movement and the people willing to submit to Cylon rule threads are completely tossed aside.
- Chief T. had great cover from Cylon gunfire from behind a ladder.

One of the serious problems with BSG is that it the writers consistently fail to think things through. Let's look at the situation of collaborators helping the Cylons. (For those of you willing to believe the line about the insurgency being mainly based on Vichy France, please notice history here). People are fleeing to the ships to escape the Cylons, are you going to get on one of those ships and risk the wrath of your fellow humans? I don't think so. In WWII, if you were a collaborator in France, you did your best to flee with the Germans. In this case, if you were helping the Cylons, you would stay behind. This episode really doesn't address that reality. All-in-all, this is really getting frustrating.
 

I think you are being completly picky about the episode. It was an excellent storyline. The fact a cylon had to look for a nuke isn't very important. Obviously, it was to develop the storyline and explain to the audience how Hera falls into Cylon's hands. The BSG flying into the sky above the camp was fantastic. The writers have to combine action with and explainable storyline. The fact the baseship appeared still isn't as relevant as how quick and explainable the episode was. I though it was an A+ episode.
 

Baltar is an egotistical maniac who would rather see every human destroyed than to give up his hold on power.

Kind of like George Bush imho. Expect Baltar to lead the Cylons in a quest against the humans for revenge in the comming episodes. Hopefully GW won't follow the same course after the republicans lose the House this november.
 

Who says Roslin's president? Sure, she grabbed Colonial One, but at least so far she hasn't been acknowledged as president by anyone but her few staff. We'll probably see what happens with that tonight.

How maneuverable is a Cylon Basestar? I don't recall seeing them flying nifty loops, and even Cylons take a few seconds to make FTL calculations. Entirely possible they didn't expect Pegasus to actually ram the ship. Honestly, it makes no sense whatsoever to do so - Galactica is old and worn out, Pegasus is top-of-the-line new. If you're going to sacrifice one in a kamikaze attack, which would you use? Take away Lee's defiant return, and there's no reason for anyone to think Pegasus would ram.

As to the collaborators - I don't think it's unrealistic for them to board the ships. There were what, a few hundred of them? They'd all been told they were being trained to police the humans, and help keep peace. With most humans gone, what use would the Cylons have had for those few hundred? They'd all seen that the Cylons had no problem gunning people down. Since they were relatively anonymous, better to flee with the humans and reintegrate there. Plenty of opportunists among them, not at all unrealistic.

And, finally, Baltar... Too complex. His ego is exactly what caused the breakdown. He does want everyone to adore him, and expected being elected to be the ultimate form of that. It didn't work out that way, and he got whiny and pouty.
 

Whatever ! Yes the plot seems dumb at times. Would I behave like Adama. No. But it is the best show on TV at present. Why? Because we humans can empathise with the characters in the series. Yes Tigh did have a really tough time. Maybe his 'female partner' was a liability and he took the chance to...... solve the 'problem' and felt guilty afterwards. To sum - yes maybe some alien monsters will pop up and 'zap'one day! All I hope is that programs such as these encouarge some politician with real imagination, decency (absence of meglomania?)and charisma to take advantage of the humungous 'space' out there and explore it. Then all those frakking jealous anti-Western anti-technology and and anti-progress (and Western apologists) will see that humans are unique and can follow in Kirk's footsteps. Ouch !