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Thursday, February 23, 2006

Baltar for President

I took some flak in the last post for supporting Baltar for President.

The first thing I'd like to say is that this is a TV show. Lighten up. From an entertainment perspective, I think it would be more fun to watch Baltar be the President for a change.

If I were a member of the fleet, who didn't know about Baltar's role in the Cylon destruction of humanity, I'd vote for him because Roslyn is anti-freedom. It's not just the abortion episode, but rather the Black Market episode that that really angers me. Roslyn is opposed to even basic free market dealings between citizens, and I also don't appreciate her religious mumbo-jumbo.

As a viewer of the show, I don't think Baltar is all bad. Remember, he was tricked into giving up the defense codes to the Cylons. I bet a lot of viewers would be tricked the same way by a hot Russian nymphomaniac spy.

I have come to believe that the Number Six that Baltar sees is a result of his schizophrenia, triggered by his immense feeling of guilt because of his role in the Cylon attack. So I don't think that he is controlled by the Cylons and therefore his ascendency to the Presidency shouldn't endanger humanity any more than it already is with Roslyn at the helm.


Comments:
You took flak? Who did that? < /sarcasm>

Aw cmon this is fun to talk about and debate. I know it isn't a real show but if we just talk about it as if it has no parallel in real life then... this would get boring. The show itself seems to be pulling out themes from very current events for that very reason is it not?

However if you want me to stop taking it so seriously I will drop my rhetoric down a notch or two.

Anyway I do agree with you on a number of things... I would consider voting for Baltar if I did not know of his background and it certainly would make the show much more interesting.

However I have to disagree on one point; black markets normally are not a good thing. Free markets however are. There is a big difference.

Thanks for the blog.
 
I agree with DM on the free markets. Political campaigns have a way of bringing up your demons if you are running for office. Baltar has a ton of demons. He has lots of bad stuff to dig up. I am not saying I agree with digging in peoples past, but you only have to dig into Baltar's present to find dirt.

I want to remind everyone that Baltar GAVE A NUCLEAR BOMB TO A CYLON!!!! Did you all forget about that? I can hear it now. "Vote for Baltar, he will give you your own nuke." He is a Cylon sympathizer.

In reality. Do you really think they will give Mary McDonnell a back seat? They did not save her from cancer to change her to a secondary role.

I see interesting discussion coming out way in the weeks to come. I look forward to it.
 
I read a lot of comments from Baltar-bashers about how Baltar has a huge and delicate ego. But Roslyn has won out in that area, too. She believes, by implication in the successive plotlines, that she is some kind of messiah that will deliver the human race to its destiny. She will come to believe that this is the reason why she was saved.

Sure, the bashers talk of Baltar's presumed mental illness/trauma-induced psychosis. What about Roslyn's visions? She believes she is a messiah. And those are the most dangerous kinds of leaders, the ones who think they have figured out the One True Way, who believe they can and should rule by some divine right.

The Baltar-haters will retort: "But Baltar listened to his penis! He killed Caprica City for a piece of chromium-plated ass!" Oh, okay. Step back a moment and remember that Roslyn way back as Education Secretary was shagging the Prez? And even at that early point, she was manipulating the President's intentions over the teachers' strike. If she is ever outed about this on Galactica, Roslyn will likely tell the press it is a vast, right-wing conspiracy. Please, dear Baltar-bashers, Roslyn ain't no boy scout here. She is every bit the deft, cunning politician...

My note to the producers: 1) for the series finale, have the Fleet discover Earth, but have every single human in the Fleet die in a massive fireball battle to protect it from the Cylons; 2) have a season finale somewhere down the line where Baltar conspires to assassinate Roslyn because he realizes her visions will lead the human race to disaster as a result of her religion-soaked ego and possibly smoking peyote; 3) after Mary McDonnell's agent gives you an earful for considering #2 above, maybe you can just reveal that Roslyn is the last known Cylon model, the Cylon leader that will at last awaken, and 4) I mentioned in a previous post about another series that had the human race cast as the actual instigators of an interstellar war -- Ron Moore, David Eick, please steal this plotline! It happens all the time in LA, but more importantly, it will make for really interesting storylines...
 
The president of the free world gave in to an Monica Lewinsky... is Baltar's giving in to a drop dead gorgeous intellectual blonde (wow!) that far fetched? *-)
 
True. Six is so better looking than Monica.
 
I agree that Rosalyn is a poor choice for president given her lack of respect for civil liberties. I disagree with the way she uses "survival" as an excuse to justify act utililitarianism over moral, rule-based utilitarianism. Come to think of it, Presidnet Bush does the same.

However, Baltar is frac'n crazy, selfish too. It's easy to emphathize with Rosalyn over him.
 
Gee, he's turned out so well...
 
The military dosnt function on consensus. You have a well trained and experienced leader who takes COMMAND. If you took a vote when you were under attack to see which way the poorly informed general population thought you should go, it would certainly leed to disaster. (see the season finally for an example) You talk about free markets and free speech and impositions on civil libertys. These are not "rights" but "privilages" given to us by a strong military and the men and women who make the sacrifice to protect them. When humanity has been reduced to 40 or 50 thousand, the "privilage" of civil libertys can be granted on so long as it dosnt interfere with the survival of humanity. If all humans are dead, civil libertys is a pretty hollow concept. The largest mistake made by the crew was in Adama not ceizing command when he knew the civilian population was making a mistake. Had he done so they would be on there was to earth and not under cylon control. Poor TV, Possibly. The best chance for the survival of humanity and the eventual reconstruction of ideas like "free press", "free markets" and "civil liberty", Definately!
 
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